Submarine Launch More Likely Israeli testing
By Steve Johnson | November 23rd 2010 | Category: Israel, MILITARY, MISSILE . Los Angeles |
Los Angeles Missile plume NOT a contrail
| _Mainstream media in frenzy selling the 'contrail ' myth | |
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| _Los Angeles, USA - On 9th November 2010 (That's 9-11 For those Downunder + the Sth Hemisphere region) The internet went into a frenzy over a mysterious object that was recently seen over the West coast of California. For days while the bloggersphere exploded into theory after theory, the US Govt. and Pentagon remained suspicious by their refusal to comment and maintained complete silence over the object. Immediately the naysayers and mainstream pundits began selling the story that is was just a condensation trail AKA a ' contrail.' Meanwhile on earth, in reality many of us knew different ... | |
2 days after the media hype over the "mystery missile", US Defense officials finally began to leak the belief that the contrail was produced by an airplane, attempting to defuse suggestion of aforeign missile launch so close to the American continent.
For those who haven't yet seen the story:
What is REALLY known by SoutheastAsiaNews after a week long research and investigation are the following facts:
* It arose from the ocean
* Some 35 miles off the coast
* The upward trajectory DID appear to spiral and corkscrew as it ascended
* It took everyone including the Citizens, The Media, The Pentagon, The Military and The Govt. all by surprise.
* If thats a "condensation" trail *(IE: vapor) then that plane is in a heck of a lot of trouble especially at the altitude it was going!!!!
* THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST ONE.
Initial speculation was varied and ranged from a "test fire " of a new secret missile:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/150322.html
To an ongoing War against the Pleidian alien species:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/59841/Mystery_Missile_was_Shoot_Down_by_Aliens/
PLEIDIAN GALACTIC WAR : ( A theory made by WildColleen (above) who describes herself as an alien contactee. )
One of the more widespread theories and more accepted by the free-thinking internet community had surfaced early on from the Wayne Madsen Report which quickly spread virally onto sites like PrisonPlanet, VeteransToday.com and beyond that it was a possible Chinese missile.
Given the G20 timing, possible EMP weapon used, the recent possible sabotage of the American dollar by Chinese financial investment groups and given the nature of the less than bright white smoke trail it left behind. They even gave a "possible" route that the supposed "possible Chinese sub" might have "possibly" taken.
Some of the more inventive reporting is as follows:
Even websites that tried immediately to damage control were posting it was a plane condensation trail like this one:
http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/3136/it-aint-no-thing
The problem is with the above website that the image used in the above story was from December 31st 2009. NOT the LA plume 'object' seen more recently. So in fact it seems some websites were even attempting to sell the 'contrail' story using FAKE images!
One such popular website amongst the tinfoil nutters (who consider chemtrails merely just a slight residue from jet exhaust) is ContrailScience.com by a guy who calls himself Uncinus. (Probably because all the cool nicknames like Morpheus and Neo had already been taken)
His suggestion was that it was actually a Passenger jet Plane and even gave the flight number. Here is his comment as it appears on the Veterans Today article:
uncinus says:Gordon, I’m sure you have many valid points of the dangers of Chinese hegemony, however it’s now been proven that the contrail was flight UPS902. Shouldn’t you update your story based on this new information?
http://contrailscience.com/los-angeles-missile-contrail-explained-in-pictures/
The curious thing we find firstly when looking at the website:
Contrailscience.com is it was first registered in 2007.Contrails have been around since commercial aircraft began, so one would imagine there are many websites of this nature with a lot more valid science than appears on this page. Unfortunately not. Contrailscience is one of the few shelters offered to the meteorologically impaired.
The majority of the photos on this page are not even of the so called “missile”. in fact some of the photos have obvious copy/paste photoshop manipulation:
http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//skitch/CBS_NEws_David_Martin_Mystery_Missile.mov-20101113-170948.jpg
For those of you with an eye for image funnystuff:
See if this "untouched" raw image looks manipulated in some way:
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Most of the photos show various different trails in the sky all of which have WILDLY different weather and moisture conditions in the atmosphere at the time. Making acutely accurate comparisons of these pictures in completely different geographical locations using differing lenses at different times of day is not only silly. It is scientifically and intellectually misleading.
Looking at whom posted the videos in this article we find the youtube channel of Mr ‘Uncinus’ with his army of believers. (Ie: his two friends, 50 odd subscribers. ) http://www.youtube.com/user/Epoxynous
Given that this user has been on Youtube for 4 years since 2006 and his website has been around a year after that, one would imagine that he would have thousands and thousands of scientists and professionals in his company to clarify such homebased DIY internet psuedo-science .
However not.
Also on that channel we find a stunning admission:
About Me:
I run contrailscience.com, where I post as “Uncinus” (After cirrus uncinus, the cloud)
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So, let us clarify this last comment above shall we?
Uncinus offers undeniable “proof” on a website claiming to be a scientific website that offers NEW conclusive evidence using pictures that are not even of the object, photoshopped pictures on a website that HE HIMSELF OWNS, featuring videos that HE HIMSELF made.
The major problem with Uncinus "theory" is the poor guy spent an entire week deleting comments, updating, posting image after image, making youtube vid after youtube vid to prove his theory, but had he done a simple search for LA Cameraman Gil Leyvas he would have saved himself a lot of trouble. (Or maybe switch on that Los Angeles television of his, and turn his computer off for five minutes)
Gil Leyvas was the cameraman who filmed the LA plume footage and his comments were very telling indeed.
Gil Leyvas the Los Angeles Cameraman with years of experience in Los Angeles TV crews and in helicopters describes the “missile plume”:
” … it was unique, It was moving, it was growing in the sky. As I zoomed in I used a two times extender on the lens to get a closer look and uh…
... you could tell the object whatever it was, was “spiralling” up in the sky.
You could see the clouds were kinda swirling, and uh, as I zoomed in and got tighter on it, it uh, it appeared that it was spinning and going in a Westerly direction….”
Here is an eyewitness account from an experienced reporter living and working in Los Angeles. I would consider his report more factual and more credible than our mysterious friend “uncinus” who on youtube possibly lives in LA this week and Utah the week before.
Since when do experienced LA reporters call contrails “unique” ?
- You would be assured that he has surely seen enough of them over the skies of California to know what something strange in the sky looks like, being an LA cameraman.
Since when to commercial jets “Spiral and spin” in the sky?
-Probably only when they are out of control or crashing. In which case it would be going DOWN not UP.
Too much of this Gil Leyvas' eywitness account does not lend itself to a "Planehugger" theory. (Pardon the pun)
Even considering the sheer scale of the posting on Contrail page:
http://contrailscience.com/los-angeles-missile-contrail-explained-in-pictures/It certainly shows an immense amount of time and effort that has gone into pushing the ‘contrail’ story that seems to have begun mere hours after the event was reported at a time when even the Pentagon, the military and the US Govt. were either deliberately tight lipped or honestly at a loss to explain fully what the event filmed by LA cameraman Gil Leyvas actually was.
Had he done a five minute search and found the cameraman interview, that anyone seriously looking into it could have found themselves he then might then have enlightened himself and saved himself the trouble of making such thinly stretched vids and formulating long winded postings.
I doubt in the end however that “being informed” either wildly or accurately is a factor in this story when he’s pushing a linear line of “Nothin to see here folks it was a contrail..”
PLAUSIBLE THEORIES
One of the more plausible theories has come from an Confidential source of either Ex or current Military personnell who made this claim on the veteransToday copy of the article which says:
REDACTED: Finally there is something that has occurred, in which I am actually an expert and qualified to give a real answer about. I am a retired U.S. Navy FireControl Technician, who is platform certified in missile systems XXXXXXXXX, I have also worked with the Navy’s Harpoon, Tomahawk and ASROC missile systems.Anyway, what I saw in the recent video concerning the object 30 miles off the coast of CA is blatantly a foreign made, Large Cruise or ICBM missile, being launched by a sub-surface aquatic platform.
First I know its a large missile because it did not exhibit the typical “corkscrewing” trajectory of a beam riding missile as it trys to acquire the targeting beam. This tells me its a Big Boy with a complete guidance system installed in it, what is nicknamed a “fire and forget” missile, as once its launched its internal guidance system takes over and there is no real need for external guidance.
I’m fairly confident its not one of ours, as the vapor trail appears “dirty” it looks brownish. I have personally been involved in (5) SM2 missile launches, and (2) ASROC missile launches, and have been on safety observation for at least 15 more launches of Harpoons, Tomahawks and other missiles. We put a lot of sweat and money into our “birds” and part of that is the fuel cells, they burn very clean, a whitish-blue infact, not a dirty blackish brown. That missile had rather crude fuel cells, which tells me its not one of ours.
FULL ARTICLE:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/17/gordon-duff-the-california-mystery-missile/
Yet Another:
There has been a week long test that was scheduled for the Naval Air Warfare Center Searange (based at point Mugu).
Also the U.S.S. Reagan was close enough to divert course, and then send helicopter assistance to the cruise ship that had a power failure off the Baja coast (150 miles south of San Diego) on Tue Nov 9.
It would be interesting to know where the Reagan and escorts were on Monday. Aren't carriers always escorted by submarines and ASW ships? Shouldn't a boomer on the alleged approach path cited by Wayne Madsen have been detected by the Reagan's escorts?
The boats that leave San Fran harbour are always preceded by frigates whose ASW choppers were already fanning out ahead. I realise it's a big ocean, but that launch was practically in our back yard.
As far as announcing tests, then lying about them, one only has to think back a few years ago when an ICBM launch out to the Marshall's went out of control.
The missile came down the coast at sunset, and was destructed north west of Santa Monica Bay. Impressive fireworks. The next day a successful ABM intercept was announced. Over the Channel Islands.From PrisonPlanet comments
Yet Another:
I spent 10 years in the ARMY and we trained extensively for land navigation without the aid of GPS (just a compass and a map) I personally know a gentleman who just reitred from the air force and carried the launch codes and sat in a missile silo. We had a long discussion about EMP attack about 3 months ago and then this happens..ironic huh? He was VERY concerned about this missile launch and very knowledgable about the subject and technically savy..very interesting conversation.
From Youtube Comments LA Missile Video
What is more likely -
Wars and rumors of wars : By deception they wage war.
The Israeli owned and operated Dolphin class submarines (Pictured: above left) have been going through their training paces ever since they moved over three-quarters of its Naval Forces through the Suez Canal and into the Persian Gulf. a number of them then being spotted around 12 months ago leaving the Straits and entering the Indian Ocean.
The subs were originally destined to be a gift to Israel from the guilt ridden German Government as a part of the unlimite trillions in endless reparations from some useful loony dictator* over half a century ago *(Who was probably just a Rothschild set up anyways).
The real purpose of the subs were meant to be entirely for defensive reasons, however it was noted amongst the military community that indeed Israel may have actively fitted bigger better missile pods than just the US made Harpoon missiles (Pictured: above left) armed with Nuclear warheads.
The fears have been and still are that Israel will get involved with a direct assault on Iran.
What is more likely is exactly what we have always seen from the warmongering state of Israel. By deception they wage war and Israel are possibly in final testing mode of their strategic capabilities and putting the equipment through the trials. Distraction, create fear, even provoke international incidents. Their fingerprints seem to appear everytime something like this goes on.
Pitting rivals against each other is very likely scenario outcome when considering Israels Modus Operandi, they certainly have in the past displayed no fear and no morals in mercilessly attacking their own allies and the citizens of the nation that stocks their missiles so plentifully.
The Dolphin class subs got into strife not so long ago when they "bumped" into a Japanese Fishing boat whilst "shadowing " behind it, forcing the Israeli Prime Minister into a very embarrassing apology of admission. So we do know their capabilities for traversing Pacific seas.
Shadowing is a well known submariner method of following in the radar shadow of another vessel in order to avoid detection from enemy or hostile radar or sub surface detection systems.
Then we are to consider the sinking of the South Korean Fishing Trawler. At first the world suspected Nth Korea. (As we would) However as news of the torpedo filtered out as the cause, evidence came to light of the German made paint flecks found on the hull of the Sth Korean boat. Positively identified as German made Israeli freebies courtesy of the German taxpaying public.
Once again the reasoning is clear, distraction, create fear, feed mistrust, even provoke international incidents. Pit rivals against each other and brother against brother is the very nature of this Rothschild owned illegal state called Israel.
What better way to "test" their new fitted missiles than a public show for the US people about exactly what their money has payed for. It is not only possible it is also very likely that Israel is truly that arrogant to put on such a taxpayer funded fireworks show for the US citizens.
THEN have the audacity to laugh all the way home while mainstream media sell the contrail story to a half asleep public.
In Conclusion -
To summarise my points in this article, when considering aggression or hostile actions of a state or nation, one must certainly take into consideration circumstantial and evidence and mitigating factors when trying to solve 'who did it."
In this case whilst the circumstantial and coincidental evidence strongly suggests CHINA, conversely the well known and arrogant behavior award points my finger more likely at a culprit with proven history and experience in this kind of psychological shock tactic of this calibre; Israel.
China on the other hand have never before been so obvious, nor is it within their nature to show off 40 yr old missile systems like this when they have apparently have hi tech crafts traversing their skies.
This time last year it was confirmed that Israel already had 4 working Dolphin class submarines in their fleet.
Besides, recently analysts do already assume that Israel's Dolphin submarines carry nuclear missile platforms. (Reuters AlertNet - Admiral stirs questions on Israel's "nuclear" subs)
Is that plume beginning to look familiar yet?
For those who havent seen yet, heres my video asking the question:
Did Israel shoot the missile that was certainly NOT a contrail?
Blaming CHINA is not only convenient it's also politically expedient at this time FOR EVERYONE. Obama included.(Pictured below: Obama and Hu jin Tao in talks Shortly after the missile was fired and reported.)
This kind of story makes for great newspaper sales. (If anyone actually still buys newspapers) Excellent distraction value AWAY from what kind of DEALS are REALLY being done while we look the other way.Remember: The Govt. official version is this was a contrail.
Contrails DO NOT rise up from the ocean.
Contrails DO NOT rise up and twist like a corkscrew.
Contrails DO NOT stay in the air under 29,000 feet for longer than ten seconds in an afternoon heat.
Contrails RARELY EVER get emitted from 35 km off Californian coast. Far away from any commercial airport.
Contrails DO NOT generate Pentagon , Russia TV and Wayne Madsen interest.
Contrails are made of ice crystals in high altitude where plane exhaust turns briefly into a trail of such Carbon Dioxide and H2o crystals and that moisture then dissipates within 5 minutes -maximum- of leaving such aircraft.
If this is a contrail, then there is a plane gone down in the Pacific with serious smoking engine trouble. In reality, that is not even verified. If that was a vapor trail, some mechanic needs to be fired.
All the evidence leads to Israel. Even the delay in issuing an official response that came two whole days after the object was splashed across the world. This itself is an indication that officially nobody knew WHAT to respond, what story to use or whom from a foreign Govt. they should get their story from. Ask yourself, is there any nation state that currently has US Senators, and Congresspeople in their pockets? Is there ANY nation state that could do what they like and test what they like anywhere near the USA without raising military enquiry, journalistic speculation nor political eyebrows?
DOLPHIN CLASS SUBMARINES: Israel Current Capabilities
In June 2002, former State Department and Pentagon officials confirmed that the U.S. Navy observed Israeli missile tests in the Indian Ocean in 2000, and that the Dolphin-class vessels have been fitted with nuclear-capable cruise missiles of a new design. Israel issued new denials, albeit in an indirect manner. In October 2003, unidentified senior U.S. and Israeli officials were quoted as saying that Israel had successfully modified nuclear warheads to fit its Harpoon missiles Only one that I can think of. You make up your own mind.
Steve Johnson.
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Research Links:
NewFoundland Missiles:
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2010/...
NY City "fire in the sky" object:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/11/1...
Wayne Madsen says: Chinese Missile:
http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen-...
Gordon Duff on the MYSTERY MISSILE:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/...
More From WAKE UP :
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news...THIS is what a real vapor contrail looks like:
What do YOU think it is?
skynet bitches...
trufiend138
ITS UNDERDOG U FOOLS LOL
tampa50man
Distracting, that's what it is and meant to be.
MrPainfullytrue
More reading:
Pentagon: Plane caused LA contrail
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